A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Early to mid 1937 is about the time they join, they should get rid of their guarantees. Next I declared war against france they had 400 divions compared to my 200 however they stacked them all on Maginot Line so I just held a fallback line while 140 divions went around the line and then capitulated them easily next was the UK not hard once you land in the UK you can take them out easy. The most straightforward approach would be to first neutralize Italy by launching naval invasions to encircle and destroy their troops before marching on Rome. However, the very good civilian production allows for considerable military buildup in the years before the war and France can easily build up its industry to a comparable level once negative modifiers have been removed. Similarly, France can act differently in response to German demands for Sudetenland than the UK; if the UK agrees to let Germany have the Sudetenland, the French can either agree with the UK, which will also cancel their guarantee on Yugoslavia, or refuse to go along with the UK and form a faction with Czechoslovakia. 25 days ago. Just restart and hope this doesn' happen again or you could be a boss and beat both of them I guess lol. They will retain control of southern France, while we are free to occupy the rest. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. The Germans have refused our request for an armistice! I guess that just means I cannot attack an commies without taking daddy russia out first. It is possible to declare on minors without the allies interfering. As a polish puppet the soviet player asked if I was a puppet. Diplomacy [edit | edit source]. They will, however, also be shouldered with the heavy occupation costs levied by the Germans. Note that once you go to war with Germany, you'll have to recall those volunteers, so after the Carlists Spawn, delete your existing tank volunteers and immediately send some new ones to Carlist Spain (at the start of the game, France starts with 6 tank Divisions - convert all of these to the template with motorized, and you'll have several good divisions on your hands), and use them to clean up as much of the other factions as possible before going to war with the nations required for the EU. So I embarked on a five year mission of destroying every allied nation. They are evidently seeking to enslave us all we have no choice but to fight to the last! The French government was allowed to remain in power, but its effective jurisdiction was limited to the unoccupied "Free Zone" in southern France constituting roughly 45% of France's pre-war metropolitan territory. For more information, please see our France has a number of unique names and appearances for various technologies and equipment, listed here. In the spirit of the Entente Cordiale, we are proud to welcome you not only as friends, but as Allies. Our victory in France is nearly complete. Disjointed Government, Political Violence and Inefficient Economy can possibly be removed by completing National Focuses in the Popular Front/National Bloc branch. Send Tank Volunteers to Republican Spain, and use them to secure the ports in Asturias; delay for as long as possible (if Nationalist Spain does either a Methodical Approach or Caudillo of Spain after Martyrdom for Primo de Riveria instead of Consolidate the North, you're on the right track). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The French government has asked for an armistice, and our diplomats have prepared terms which they have agreed to. Well, not probably, presumably---I haven't tried it. Their political integration has been halted, but no doubt the nations will continue to be close friends in the future. France has, a unique potential to gain cores on The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Germany, and Italy through incredible luck. Questions, Paradox Start in Sicily and work your way up the peninsula towards Rome. The germany guy was good but the french joined and the game for him was over while i cleaned some pockets that had atleast a dozen divisions in it. Note that Japan invading China increases WT quite a bit so if you are playing historical, plan for that. >_>. They will also be lacking in industry compared to France and will also have to watch out for Free France, a French resistance movement led by general Charles de Gaulle who will try to contest the Vichy regime's control over France and seek to overthrow it. On capitulation if the following triggers are met: Gain control of state if owned by a nation which originates from, State is owned by a nation which originates from, If Midi Pyrenees (31) is owned by a country originating from, Grants control and ownership of the state to a random country originating from, Gains control of following states if they're owned, Gains control of the following states if they're owned by a nation which originates from, Sets the capital state to Ile de France (26), Changes the player-led country to this from, If Pyrnes-Atlantiques (806) is owned by a country originating from. and our At world tension above 50% you can expect any nation you attack to always seek to join a faction of the same ideology OR willing to go at war with you, if one exists. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. France starts 1939 with a small, but modern air force. France is the only nation to start with Battlecruiser II, a 1940 technology. France is quite possibly the best candidate to form the European Union as if staying democratic, it can expect to end up in a defensive war against both Germany and Italy, allowing both countries to be annexed in a single peace treaty. 'History has shown how much can be accomplished when our great nations stand side by side. Faction: Neutral. So Im playing as germany and everytime im about to invade a country i justfiy go to declare war and all of a sudden an allied country is guranteeing independence that fast which means i have to back off or start ww2 or even worse. Note that generic names are not listed. Once Italy falls, be sure to quickly capitulate Germany before the Allies are able to do that. Press J to jump to the feed. After theyre gone I need to find a way to disolve my Axis and then take the rest of the countries over until my Reich spans the globe! Becomes the owner and controller of every state that meets the following requirements: Is either on the African continent or is a core of either of the countries: Becomes the owner and controller of as well as gaining national territory on every state that meets the following requirements: Is controlled by a country originating from, Every uncontrolled state that is national territory of, Sets the ownership and control of every state owned by, Is either Corsica (1), Provence (21), or Savoy (735), If Provence (21) and Savoy (735) are controlled by, Sets the ownership and control of Alpes (32) to, Every unit leader, including admirals, with the, Otherwise, if our country is the faction leader, kicks, Owns either Damascus (554), Aleppo (677), or Deir-az-Zur (680), Then the following is executed for a random nation which originates from. Turn off historical and hope they form little entente. In a historical scenario, Italy fulfills a support role to the German Reich, allowing the Axis to contest control of the Mediterranean and North Africa. Britain has agreed to merge our two nations into one. As with her tanks, France begins the game with modern naval technology, such as 1936 BB, DD and SS techs and two unique designs: La Fantasque, a destroyer model with tier 3 (1940) engines, and the Surcouf Class submarine with 3 custom slots. If they opt to interfere, however, they will unlock a series of decisions - said decisions will boost war support; after getting war support to a certain level, France can opt to intervene directly in the Spanish Civil War. The below description is one of several available for this event.Germany has acceded to Italian demands for our territory. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. However, if Germany has restored the Kaiser, they will instead establish Bourbon France, although unlike what happens if France manually restores the monarchy, this Bourbon France will not have a king in charge (France will also become Bourbon France if they become a puppet of a non-aligned government). ( they discussed it on chat) Turkey capped and the Turkey player started raging. You need to have a high war score in order to pull off this strategy. Italy is a major nation in Southern Europe. on Paradox technology, Legal and our Luxembourg is one of the minor nations in HOI4. With the end of the war, the need to maintain a close union with the French nation is also passing. In the wake of the French armistice with Germany and establishment of a new government in Vichy France, a group of senior officers have rebelled against the new French government. They have no access to Oil so they need to import that. Any way from preventing countries joining factions mid war?! But then the turkey player kicked Greece out of faction so the does not end. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. To avoid this case, you need to justify at a time when the allies cannot guarantee your target. Build super heavy tanks and artillery and just blitz thru the magnoit early so England doesnt get involved. While reforms are needed and welcome, the nation is divided and getting drawn into a conflict would put it at great risk. When at peace, the Allies AI (specifically, that of the leader of the Allied faction, and to a lesser extent that of France) is tweaked to try to protect european nations, and to some extent other ones such as in the middle east. France starts with four National Spirits in Man the Guns and more in La Rsistance: With the Man the Guns expansion enabled, France starts with an additional national spirit: Victors of the Great War can be removed by completing the Army Reform focus at the bottom of the Begin Rearmament branch. The French national focus tree can be divided into 5 branches and 7 sub-branches: France starts with very good tanks, having unlocked 2 levels of the light tanks tree. Vichy France will gain control of a portion of the French forces but it is not possible to predict what divisions Vichy France will get. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. The main problem with forming the EU as France is the inability to annex Belgium, Netherlands, and Luxembourg but this can be worked around by going down the French Entente line in the focus tree. This happened to me once before, they joined in March. Once Vichy France completes the tree, however, it will switch over to the regular French national focus tree (with the National Regeneration path unlocked). If they opt to encourage non-interference, success will give them a stability boost. Whilst the Marine Nationale is strong enough to decisively defeat either the Kriegsmarine or the Regia Marina alone, it would have no chance against a combined Axis fleet. Even now, a new joint government is being formed in London. Vichy France's zone of jurisdiction is initially limited to the following states within Metropolitan France: In addition to these, Vichy France will also gain control of most of France's colonial empire (Free France will gain control of French Guyana and a handful of other island territories). 'Our request to join Britain as Allies has been denied. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. +35 01. 2019, https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Vichy_France&oldid=60550, Countries with unique National Focus trees, Articles with potentially outdated tables, Play What I just did was go to war with poland instantly and then stacked against the Soviet Union. If this happens, France is given the option of collaborating with the Germans (which will create Vichy France if the Germans approve), continuing the fight regardless or proposing a union with Britain (which . Any time a country that is part of a faction attacks another country, the defending country will join an opposing faction. (Hidden) AI values for the Spanish Civil War, https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=French_events&oldid=54247, Play As Germany take Poland and Czechia (at least that's what I do) , As Italy take like maybe Albania, Greece or Yugoslavia, As Russia DON"T TAKE ANYTHING. Has completed focus Invite Communist Ministers France, along with the United Kingdom, guaranteed the independence of Poland prior to its invasion by Germany. Marshal Philippe Ptain became "Chief of State" (effectively making him both head of state of and head of government at the same time with both offices being merged into one), and a new constitution was drafted giving Ptain extraordinary powers. My friend is playing as Germany and struggles to attack countries like Czech, Switzerland or Netherlands, because they always join the Allies as soon as he declares them. Having emerged victorious from the Great War, the army has developed a dangerously complacent attitude which causes strategic developments to come slowly and with some reluctance. For the first step, in forming the super Kingdom of Franco-Spain, you must put on non-historical focuses, and restart saves until Portugal does its focus Estado Novo. Interactive corporate website, Can declare war on country of the same ideology group without a war goal, No National Spirit. A way for Vichy to become the "legitimate" France and even potentially join the Allies; A way to have Free France gain territories that were assigned to Vichy France when the whole thing was created, without bringing them into the war . Changing conscription laws will make Full Employment worse but can be removed with the National focus. He later moved on to Morgan Stanley's Moscow office. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The UK and France will start guaranteeing independence at WT 25%. It consists of mainland France and the island of Corsica. any ways to increase the likelyhood of this happening? As France, complete the "Little Entente" National Focus, and have all German cores owned by you or someone in your faction. Gains ownership of and control over the following states if owned by the country getting the event: Fired for the country that meets the requirements: If the following is true on declaration of war: Random other country that originates from, Resets the appearance of the country to the default, Every state that is national territory of both, Sets ownership of and control over the state to, Every unit leader that has the unit leader flag, Has at least 70% of progress towards being capitulated. This will greatly reduce the output of our factories and is viewed as a victory for [Root.GetCommunistParty]. The British government is unwilling to antagonize Germany further, and will not jeopardize the current peace. Most workers have now realized that their unreasonable demands will not be met. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. However, around a year later, in 1940, when actual combat ensued between all three powers, the Allied armies were defeated in just six weeks during the Battle of France against Germany and Italy, in contrast to the years-long campaign expectation by both sides. The player can also expect production to be reduced by the "Inefficient Economy" national spirit. An alternative (albeit untested) way to form the EU is to allow Hungary to become a major power and then occupy and hold the territories needed before the peace deal. We must now think to the future. This national spirit can be removed though the national focus tree. If you're playing Germany, you can kill fascist countries without any interference from the Allies or Comintern thoughonce world tension is too high, just kill Italy and Spain, and start raising fascist support in other target countries. That would either be when world tension is too low (below 25% democracies cannot guarantee), or when they have too many guarantees already (each guarantee costs 25PP more than the last, so if you trick them into guaranteeing many nations it'll become harder and costlier for them to guarantee even more). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. . So how did your first MP game go. France, as one of the seven major powers, got a unique national focus tree. The UK is holding Egypt. However, their government is divided, with Communist influences threatening to weaken it further. After my last Vichy post Spain (Who was in the allies) had the bright idea of declaring war on me. Join. To the east lies Switzerland and Italy lies to the Southeast separated by the huge Alps mountain range. The HOI4 Adoriasim SIG is a meta group aiming to create a hoi4 mod out of Adoria with its extensive in sim and pre-sim lore. My prosecution of the war went no different, if slower but still well ahead of the "Go with Britain" focus. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. These are the Military Staff candidates for appointment in France. Civilian to Military Factory conversion cost: This page was last edited on 23 February 2023, at 01:36. 'While we have enjoyed good relations in the past, we cannot risk an escalation of the conflicts across the channel. Then WW2 kicked off Poland-Romania did not accept the ultimatum, the Germany player was kind of angry about it but in a civilised manner. We are in the enviable position of having very low unemployment, partially because of the massive bloodshed of the Great War. I forgot to say that I got parts of Slovakia and did not want to deal with resistance and released a puppet czeslovakia which later became independent and there was a czeslovakia in southern slovakia. Vichy France is created through an event chain which will start if France is in a faction with United Kingdom, at war with Germany and Germany controls the state of Ile de France (16). Privacy Policy. Start a game with an Allies nation that is not France (UK would be a good choice) In 1939, when the Germany invade Belgium, watch how France AI can't sent div to cross the border to stall German advance. If Germany is Fascist, they will establish Vichy France. Additionally, through the focus "French Union", France can gain cores on any of their colonies in Africa, the Middle East, or Indochina, although the cores gained will differ as the outcome is always random - interestingly, if Morocco, Algeria, or Tunisia was to form Andalusia, then be re-conquered by France, it can still agree to be cored through French Union, which would result in France gaining all cores that Morocco had (hypothetically, the same would be true for Arabia if Lebanon or Syria were to form the nation, be re-conquered by France, and then agree to be cored through French Union), although this would be slightly redundant if Legitimist France was to do so, as Andalusia requires Spain and Portugal to be formed) - note that the Blum-Violette proposal would not grant France cores on Andalusia if formed this method, as said focus is fixed in regards to what cores it grants. You can always invade them anyway later, I like to take out Nationalist Spain as Italy right after the civil war sometimes, because nobody protects them. Information, Frequently Asked If Germany does back down in response to either instance, not only will the Rhineland remain demilitarized, but it will also give them a negative debuff that will lock off Anschluss for 1 year (additionally, when Germany does go to war, this will mean that the Rhineland will be unprotected by German troops for a while). Information, Frequently Asked In a few weeks, Japan will declare war on the Philippines and I will be dragged into the war in Asia. When these new defenses are finished, the Italians would have to be mad to cross the border! Yippee. [deleted] 3 yr. ago. After that you probably improve relations and stuff and sooner or later if they dont invite you during peace you should be able to join if theyre at war 1 More posts you may like r/hoi4 Join 3 days ago Hoi4s total War problem 208 37 r/hoi4 Join 13 days ago 'Our request to join Britain as Allies has been accepted. We are invited to Matignon for negotiations. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Eventually I got dragged completely into the War and now Half of Europe, Japan, some of India, the USA, and a few more is at war with the UK (now commie), USSR, Yugoslavia (Tito got stomped already), Australia, etc., etc., etc.. To the Northeast in the region of Alsace-Lorraine lies the small Vosges mountain range and the huge river Rhine, which makes up the natural border with German Reich. Vichy France is created through an event chain which will start if France is in a faction with United Kingdom, at war with Germany and Germany controls the state of Ile de France (16). 1.4K. However, if the UK refuses to let Germany have Sudetenland, France can either opt to stay out of the conflict (which will cancel their guarantees of Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia) or they can reaffirm their support (if the UK is not in a faction already but France is in one, the UK is added to France's faction and vice-versa; however, if both France and the UK are in separate factions, then France will guarantee Czechoslovakia). After the defeat of the allied armies in the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg in 1940 and the British evacuation of their forces from Dunkirk to England, the French front collapsed. Paris has fallen into German hands, and it is only a matter of time before the rest of the country is occupied. This thread is archived . Germany heads the axis so I doubt that they could join the allies.

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