And now they want a further 200 more, I had two big guys turn up at my door at 6am wanting to remove goods. 1. Well, I can guess; they will sail through the barriers, oblivious to the implications, as I did. There is no way to alter the amount so if it asked for 3 I could not have just paid 2.50. Because I did the journey in a day Ive been collared for my return so no leeway to pay re first offence. Im a second-time offender, having simply forgotten to pay the charge on two separate occasions. Any truth in the rumour that PCN is Latin for: More Cash for George???????? Thank you for your thoughts. During my phone call to your office today 15 August, your customer service representative confirmed that you have not taken payment for the crossing on 28 July. Wot the hell,they also put a bill of 475 on car. If the system is investigated, they will see we have only ever crossed once, and made one payment. Set an identical reminder for your homebound trip using your home postcode7. I am a British Citizen but resident now in Canada. Being completely unaware of any of the previous tolls or the current tolls am I stuck with a PCN for the full amount, I feel this is worth an appeal, what do you think? Book your airport parking, hotels, lounges and travel extras to find out why this family-owned firm continues to offer the best service available. I just got a letter this morning for my journey dated 05/09/2015, but only for one way. 2. Hopefully that is the end of that. There is some kind of fraud going on this Dartford crossing. Yes I am one of the 300,000 drivers in one month to get stung by our lovely Department Of Transport. Its scandalous. This will depend on your circumstances and will be discussed at the earliest opportunity by the financial product provider. It is a crazy system and amounts to Highway Robbery but they do seem reasonable if you talk to them. Use the information in this article to find your closest. Is this a tax on the english again. 0300 300 0120 from the UK, or +44 300 300 0120 if you're outside. How to appeal: Challenge the penalty by contacting the issuing authority within 28 days of the notice being served. Hi Chloe Do let us know what the outcome of your representation. I was aware of London congestion zone but not Dartford crossing. Remember to set it when you book your parking with APH.com, 1. It would also enable you to obtain payments from foreign drivers who I imagine simply do not pay anything at present. The paper work from the D of T was issued 15/06/2015. I am now being billed for 6 for the 2 crossings and have appealed. I just crossed and forgot to pay for a few days.Paid online and then contacted them via twitter. I passed over, thinking of that. Thanks, Hi Paul, not sure if you received a reply to your question on the Dartford Crossing, but over the weekend i received notice of a fine for a crossing made in December last year, if you did find out if there was a time limit would you please let me know. You will then be asked to pay the PCN. You can complain to the authority because of poor signage, for example. why cant they give us information when required. (5) The handout sent through the post says you can pay by phone but doesnt give a phone number so if your computer is down or you dont use one you are stuffed. Our team fact-checks content to ensure accuracy at the time of writing. If you are one of the people who paid twice, contact Highways England to let them know. Since I was calling from SPAIN, yes SPAIN, at whatever extortionate amount my provider was charging, the call was probably more than the crossing. In a lease van. Having now read up on line it seems would shouldnt have been so honest and hasty in paying. Very dodgy the way this business is run, pure money making outfit trying to scam honest people. When I told your call taker that I was unhappy about the internet capacity and that the site was rubbish and I was now having to pay a fortune on calls, I was abruptly interrupted and told, no its not. https://www.gov.uk/make-a-freedom-of-information-request Choose Pay or challenge a PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) then click Next button I also paid before getting fined, well you do when you suddenly remember after a holiday!! BY CHEQUE OR POSTAL ORDER: write the PCN number on the back of a cheque or postal order payable to 'Dart Charge' and send to Dart Charge, PO Box 842, Leeds, LS1 9QF. It seems we cant pay after using the crossing, nor in advance. Youre not alone if you paid the London Congestion Charge by mistake. What hope do we have. I see the 2.50 still sat in the account after checking when I got another letter today demanding 105 + another 2.50.. WHY I ask. You must appeal to the adjudicator within 28 days of the Notice of Rejection is received. They are not getting a penny more from meit might even be a scam. 3) I have been abroad for the last 12 years and just returned to London I am sure the crossing was free on Sunday before, why has this changed ? Your site is very helpful, so many thanks. Came back from Cornwall this saturday, had a nightmare 10 hour journey. Not only did I save 50 on solicitor fees, I also won my case and didnt have to pay my 271 fine. who checks this system is working ? I have used the dart pay system many times before, and paid successfully. When I got to the barrier I explained to one of the men working there what had happened and expected that he would be able to help me turn around or lead me off I side road. Hope it helps I used the crossing on the 15th of October 2017, and paid 5 for 2 crossings (1 north bound, 1 south bound) on the 16th and received a receipt via email. We went through the crossing on holiday last week. 3. I paid the 5 but entered the number plate incorrectly (KN06 when it should have been KM06) so they are trying to fine me. My wife made a return trip with our boys 8 days ago and when I asked her if she had subsequently paid she said Oh ****, no, I forgot! https://www.gov.uk/make-a-freedom-of-information-request. I have wrote to them today along with my proof of payment, but fear they will reject this, as they are just after money. Two months after the incidents. I have used the crossing several times and remembered to pay later that day but forgot one time and remembered 3 days later. When and if I decide to join Dartsave, will they charge me 1.67 per journey or 2.50 ? This should be covered under the 14-day grace period for first offences. Just watch out as many people have found the system cant match payments to cars. Must be easier and more cost efficient to erect some clear signs than send out payment demands! He claimed this was sent to me on the 3rd of Feb. In order for such a decision not be procedurally improper, there must be evidence that it has been taken in a discretionary way, not simply as the result of an effectively automated process. In spite of the fact that I am personally involved in the situation and feel aggrieved, these reasons have been carefully considered and I hope you will find that they are moderate and focused. The long and short of this is, however, that the system signage is not fit for purpose. Always remember anyone can post on the MSE forums, so it can be very different from our opinion. I did this right away on-line and was emailed a receipt. Surprisingly..DC cannot make a change and neither the hire company.so I am really wondering whether the PCN gets to correct address. If there was a way of auto generating a reminder that would be a great help. It seems the recognition SW cannot easily distinguish 1 and I on some number plates. Can someone tell me if I can appeal? Sams also sent a threatening note that demanded 140,000 in cash, to be delivered by a female police officer, or Julie would "never be seen again". The Xmas opening times will be published above. First and only time we made a return trip we forgot to pay. I dont know why, I only can assume that along the Christmas festivities This is for two reasons. can someone please if I should just wait or call them? I ask you to re-evaluate my sanction and could lower the level because if there are 300,000 drivers who do not pay there must be a reason. Just keep following through pages. I was extremely shocked about this, is there anything I can do to avoid paying or being charged as I did not want to use the bridge or tunnel and the time on the cameras can prove I went straight over and back without stopping? Civil servants, such as mps get expenses for everything to do with travel and yet they serve the public? However, it sounds like you just made one crossing so either pay now at the usual rate or wait until the charge notice turns up and gives you the 14-day grace period. Local residents put up with enough and should not be put out further by the crossing. In the PCN, it simply asks to pay 35 (within 14 days) plus 2.50 Road user charge. to inform me clearly I need to pay in advance or after, and please, NOTE as here in Italy dart charge penalty notice not received jeffrey dahmer museum milwaukee . Not to mention, the traffic that still exists at the toll northbound, they make you wait and then they make you pay for it. I have driven through Dartford crossing yesterday, but I forgot to pay. My son phoned after he got a letter after using the crossing in March only got the PCN 3 weeks ago so he phoned and paid he now has a letter demanding 105 for non-payment, he phoned again and was told they can do nothing about it and he will have to appeal. Delivery is usually deemed to be 2 working days after the date on the notice. That one sentence could have saved me the suffering and stress and shock. I was away 1/2 weeks ago, should I pay now or await the letter, saying car not found on system? Find out what you can do to beat the Dartford fines right here. As a foreigner who occasionally visits the UK i wasnt even aware of the new toll system until i was coincidentally tipped off right before my next visit. this seems like a bit of a mess to me and probably why Humber Bridge are holding back on implementing their similar scheme with everything already in place, anyway looks like we crossed twice at easter on way to and from France unaware of the its introduction in Dartford seeing no signage or media warning of its introduction. I do not feel that this is made clear enough at either side of the crossing and hope that Dartford will just charge me the crossing fees. I am extremely upset as I thought it was all sorted back in January, I cannot understand how they can fine me this amount 12 months after my crossing. Just RTS their scare mail and tell them you have no contract with them. To show how easy this is, a fake site has already been built by digital marketing expert Richard Summers. When I asked why would I pay 5.00 for a return trip instead of just 3.00 for a single trip the operator told me that she thought I had just paid them extra!!!!!! Thanks. We tried to pay morning of 28th Feb for both crossings online but must have done it wrong as no payment taken. The vehicle is electronically registered on the Motorway, and you have to pay within 5 or 6 weeks time on the website. You should appeal this. Why? hey all wanted to let people know have an account with dart charge for my 18 year old son who worked in dagenham I was OD by 1.00 for 1 day in Dec 15 and the charge could not be paid i had no idea my account had ben cancelled I have called hand written twice with no reply to any of my correspondence Yesterday I received a bill now for 3790 for 14 days even though they had reinstated my account and continued taking money for any charges and crossing used. This is the cheapest way to pay, with registered cars costing 2 per crossing compared with the new price of 2.50 for those who pay in other ways.Set up a new pre-pay account here Change an existing Dart Tag account. Do you know where the leglislation says that they can enforce the deadline of midnight the next day? The 14-day grace period is also referenced on the Gov.uk website, so can certainly be taken as official see quote taken from page below. lick on the underlined words Making a Representation However he said, its tough, you have no choice but to go through the tunnel and back over the bridge to get home and you will be charged!. The thing that annoys me is that we did set up a Dart Charge account online and one that would top up automatically when it got below 10. but typed in car reg as a o not a 0, now have to pay 107. There is a further difficulty. I would appreciate your help. The penalty notice arrived. I have now received 2 x pcn for these crossings !!!! I would love to see how much interest that generates and how they get around the book-keeping for such an outrageous practice. we can found a tollbooth open, with no barriers and no charge, only in case of some strike or dismission, Thank you. do not use the form above read the guidance on how to make a FOI request email your request to info@nationalhighways.co.uk Dart Charge Contact Centre Phone: 0300 300 0120 From outside the UK:. If you send in your Dart Charge PCN challenge by the 14th day, your PCN will be set on hold at 35, in . Since its inception, motorists have complained of being charged twice for a single crossing. When will that arrive? Optional legal consultation Is this now common practice? Dart charge notices and luton regained the original behavior. Or you could call 0300 3000 120 and pay through an automated service or a real person, or you could go to http://www.payzone.co.uk/Store-Locator and select transport and ticketing then select dart charge then type in your postcode and city and it will give you a list of all the payzones that accept payment for the crossing within a 5 mile radius of your street. Many drivers have also complained the system is heavily biased towards those with online access. They charge an Admin fee! I then went to independent tribunal where I won. Why didnt the website tell me to pay both fines together and how come its taken a further 3 weeks for an offence on the same day. Hi, If youre wondering how we work with our partners and how we make money, you can read more about how MoneyNerd works. How will they collect the fees from foreign drivers. Im doing the representations x10 . I was travelling with my family on holiday, and a part that I didnt know any thing about new rules but I was not able to pay on time the previous payment Has the charge notice included the offer to pay 2.50 within 14 days? I wonder how foreign non-english reading drivers cope? Youll find information on how to appeal to the adjudicator in the rejection letter. Hi Not sure if my last reply worked, but go here for info and a link to the appeal page. 425 to release it because of unpaid Dart charge. See the section above for more details, or join up here. I have not heard this policy is changing. Dont know if that helps, and you may not want the stress involved. The one time I travel over the crossing in May I see no signs about paying a toll and now my friend whose address I use for my UK car emails me to say I have a fine! In my case, my first stop after Dartford was at the Port of Dover, where I had no phone signal (on the Three Mobile network). Since it was in a hire car, I have no idea if anyone using this car has missed previous payments and thus whether any 14-day extension will be granted. You sign up and it automatically pays the toll then sends you an invoice. I would suspect youll be charged the 2.50 crossing charge as its your first offence when the penalty is sent out, however your hire car company will still charge what is clearly a very high admin charge. Eve parties where tickets are not available for purchase at the door. However, a warning to you. They calculate 5 days for delivery at the most ( receipt by the 10th, which is out of the question ), which made the reduced penalty payable by the 24th too late when I got back home on the 29th. Plus, it provides information on the time and date of the crossing. It is set up for you to fail. Disabled badge holders are exempt from the Dartford Crossing charge. It says I can appeal this decision to an independent tribunal but I fear the worst and it was lapse into another larger fine. I would also like a refund of the toll which I had to pay again when you contacted me on the 20/05/2015, which may I also add is a lot longer than the 14 days grace you are supposed to offer but in fact it is 75 days after I crossed and PAID. The told me exactly how to appeal and win. But somehow after months of no problems the auto top up has been deactivated and weve received the fine(s). I paid online in advance of a return crossing (2 journeys) cost 5 via the gov website. they hadnt sent the penalty letter for the return journey or the other journey i made in July. We thought great thats okay as we have already paid a few days ago. Good luck. I refuse to pay a penny!! We did manage to pay the following day (with difficulty) on my husbands phone, but we almost forgot, and I dont use a mobile, so if I had been on my own I would have been completely stuck and unable to pay. Please let us know. This will be a local council PCN, which is received on the spot. We crossed on 28 August. just to make it fair i think best thing to do is send the people letter to pay 2.50 and then if they dont pay within 14days they can be charge 35 . Its my responsibility. I am not sure whether the correct term is theft or extortion or plain bullying but I feel like a little kid whos had his dinner money taken by the school bully. On the day in question I was at work and my car was in my work car park in Franborough, Hampshire all day! Was the minion not happy about my complaint? Just googled to find this and the new pay system. Too many people like you are being hounded for doing no more than the right thing. It would be possible for you to provide a dual system where regular users bypass the toll booth, but occasional users pull over and pay. Just remember this is not a customer service line, and if you take your frustration with the website out on them, they will hang up on you. If it was two crossings, its likely youll receive a fine for the second. I think making an online payment or on the phone (when it starts working again) would be the best bet. If I had known that I had to pay, I would have definitely paid! Continued non payment results in a Charge Notice increasing fine by 50%, further costs are added when debt is registered with County Court. Enter the registration of your vehicle online, then you are given the option to pay for the number of crossings you have done. ALPHA How does not received a dart charge penalty. Yes the chances are you will be as long as it was the first time youve forgotten to pay while driving that particular vehicle. (the registered keeper) by mail. I have no issue in paying the normal crossing fee. I now have a charge certificate saying that I never made a representation in time? Removal of toll-booths means that payment is now by means of credit, and most consumer credit is for 30 days. Furthermore it still does not counter the basic fact that he paid only slightly late, and before Dart Charge even realised that there had been an unpaid crossing, and therefore there is no reasonable justification for the PCN being issued. Information on how to do this will be included in the original rejection. Surely common sense would be to apply the payment to the only crossing we have ever made.ie the one they are fining us for not paying. Hi Well I doubt youll get the 14-day grace period again, but paying asap might be enough to confuse what sounds like a creaking and groaning penalty system! I didn't ignore the fine. Both journeys have been paid but has just left a small debut of -0.37 I have topped up the account. This demonstrates a fundamental flaw in your accounting system. I have just returned from travelling in the UK in my car. I agree with Alan its nothing but a big brother government scam. An incorrect fine is certainly among the grounds for appeal. This is 16 months after I crossed the bridge. Like many I remember crossing the bridge last year and had forgotten to pay when I arrived home, but at some point I do remember paying them something, but just couldnt find any evidence I certainly havent received any letters which they have suggested. Hi If the penalty was your first offence you should still be offered the opportunity to pay the original 2.50 (if in a car) charge. She did not understand the toll charge system. Editor, Marcus Herbert. Saluti, I live in Scotland and was unaware of any toll crossing charge at Dartford. Hi What an absolute scam, where does the money go from the fines? The appeal system does not allow for attachments so we cannot attach the receipts. Ken. Unfortunately, many motorists were charged twice for a single crossing because tolls duplicated their payments. They check the picture and accept the mistake immediately, blame the computer recognition system and say they will take steps to avoid repetition and then a few weeks later another PCN, and another set of costs for me to challenge them. You'll also have to pay the original fee. Use the top drop-down option to select Transport and ticketing then Dart Charge in the next options list. So where does the money go from collecting these extortionate fines? I havent received anything through the post about a fine or request to pay the charge. The phone number provided is out of service. What an absolute racket! If you have not paid by midnight on the day after you use the crossing you will be issued with a penalty charge of 70, on top of the original crossing charge. I dont know what is going to actually happen now, are they going to chase me, will I be going on black list or something? No doubt I will miss a few and then get stung with PCNs! If the former it seems a very good idea, seems one would win all round. Maybe we in the north of England are destined to find out the hard way that this charge exists. And is there any chance to claim that I did not get the first original letter where I was able to pay only for crossing in 14 days ? I wanted to pay today but it transpires that I will have to wait until Penalty Charge Notice is received by car hire company who will then give dartford my address (at a cost of 42 admin fee). Received a letter today(27 Nov 2015)but have proof of payment from Feb 2015. Siccome sono una persona onesta, ho preferito pagare, con quei soldi sarei salito volentieri sulla london eye con tutta la famiglia e mia figlia e ho rinunciato perch londra per unitaliano cara, mi scoccia veramente tanto avervi regalato quei soldi per un tunnel, adesso lo so la prossima volta piuttosto di passare per il tunnel spendo il doppio di carburante. Would I still get the 14 days grace as this isnt the first time Ive used it but is my first offence? I had my money ready to pay as Ive done before but no barriers. Thanks very much. Traffic backed up at least 2 miles on way back as bridge was closed due to high winds, so was worried I would not get to airport in time. Yours faithfully, [Your signature] Download letter docx ( 14 KB) Receipt FJ No 29616281 ref 150522132752022153F7N. Would be possible pay it now, or I have to pay the penalty? contact us page. So the cycle begins again. What Happens if You Don't Pay a Private Parking Ticket Go Girl. But its separate from any Dartford Crossing-related matter. This shows there is something fishy going on inside the department or the management of Dartford crossing charge. Yes use Payzone shops. The amount due will be 70, but discounted to 35 provided payment is made within a strict period of 14 days from service of the PCN. Have you forgotten something? To elaborate: just before Christmas I received a PCN for an alleged crossing made around 4pm on 8th December - for a vehicle I'd bought just 5 days earler on 3rd December. If youre unsure what to do, I suggest you get some legal advice from a solicitor.Thanks for reading this post on Dart Charge penalty charge notices. But when the government itself acts like this .!!!. Help - ** RESOLVED ** . making a representation. They have prepared scripts to cut you down when they are speaking to you. I understand there is the possibility of a 14 day grace period if this is the first offence, however. Can I pay now the two crossings online or I have to wait for receiving the fine? we have phoned twice and received apologies with the blame being put on their computer system, but we just got a third increased charge notice. Simply use the store locator below to find the outlet thats closest to you. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Sign-up for the APH weekly newsletter and youll receive discounted airport parking and hotels across the UK. See my comments below. when I passed there, coming from the North, I remember we found the tollbooths open, Will I get a PCN or should I pay today on the Nissan numberplate? In addition to the cost hike, sites like Dartfordcrossingcharges site have no way of effectively checking your details it even fails to ask what vehicle you are paying for, making it impossible to highlight mistakes when entering the registration mark. Increased to 105.00 if not paid within 28 days. Most importantly, the amount will significantly increase to 70 (discounted to 35 if paid within 14 days). According to the chap on the phone the process of escalation is halted when you make a representation so the most Ill have to pay is 250 for both crossings even if its rejected but its a hell of a lot of money for a young family! Set up a pre-pay account: This will need to be done in advance and will require you to pay in at least 10.00 when you register.

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