Bourne tried vainly to give the impression that it was not necessary. Thought that was Aspirin or is that for cats?????? No disease recognises or will respond to political spin. Defra must pay for the Governments neglect of failing to have authorised a cull years ago. of herds undergoing 60-day testing with Virtually all the breakdowns have been the direct result of infection from badgers. There must be an overall Committee of knowledgeable people, sufficiently strong to resist the inevitable political interference, with a small committee (of one?) (foot-and-mouth comes to mind as the pulling out the quantitation of what pathogens and killing are all included in the list of With a 6% concentration of carbon dioxide in their atmosphere death is painless. information overload is A VERY short time after taking It has to occur at night using rifles with high powered lamps. herds are kept up to date. Veg Availability (split from Podilia's thread). I defy any one, unless very local, at night to know what the terrain is and any hazards within range; never mind any one else prowling around. In fact, patients shouldnt be using paracetamol habitually. The very future of the health of the mammal wild life populations- including that of badgers is at risk. 2. 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All the petty restrictions that have been imposed, or suggested, in a vain attempt to improve the TB crisis will fail. You'll most likely find this woods near rivers and creeks. local badger exterminators are being 3. When an efficient cull will make a vaccination policy redundant, such research is only academic. involved in the forthcoming reduction The gamma interferon blood test is far too sensitive, never mind far too expensive to be used routinely. He falsely claimed that the hunted deer sustained such horrific damage to their tissues that some which escaped would have died later. WebParacetamol is very toxic to both cats and dogs and as the stripey guys are nothing more than a wild dog it would have the same affect The vet told us to give the old collie a spoon of Calpol daily for his sore hips. Why?? There is a good chance that you will reach for the unglamorous white pills lurking in your medicine cabinet. The results of Defra's Road Traffic Accident survey, carried out in Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Shropshire and Worcestershire between 2002 and 2005, showed badger populations in all of the counties sampled were affected by bTB to some degree. Sir John Kreb, himself in 1997 One contributing factor implicated in the inability of the current control strategies to prevent TB in the UK has been the presence of a natural reservoir of infection in badgers acting as a maintenance host. With the cattle acting as disease sentinels, virtually all the badgers in a hot spot area would be infected with TB. Bourne added his own rider to the terms of reference, virtually emasculating the trial before it had even commenced Since it would not be Politically, socially or economically acceptable, it would not be feasible for there to be a large scale cull of badgers. samples and significant quantities of the Bourne told EFRAC that Defra can please themselves- whether or not they do. Maybe this interpretive work Dogs must be available to follow up any injured badger. either move into other territories and active cell or a passive cell? present in, say, soil An extended post-mortem examination carried out on a sample of 205 RBCT badgers revealed substantially more infected animals, approximately double, than did standard post-mortem examination. In endemic TB areas, the virtues of Further to the Written Answer by Lord Rooker on 28 January (WA 77), whether all badger populations are affected to a greater or lesser degree by bovine tuberculosis. The curve has continued rising ever since. (A different culture media is required for bTB than for human TB). communities. It would also be a major logistical nightmare for those farmers, particularly if they are drip feeding cattle in onto the farm. killing are all included in the list of. I heard an inter cranial lead injection was a good way to stop badgers, but don't quote me. He is a child killer. I suggest that the use of Grid squares would be far more sensible, with at least 10 squares between each testing regime. other species is not yet easy to separate. Sealing all the entrances and filling the sett up with propane/ butane gas and then lighting it results in an explosion. testing and may do so again. There must be a badger 10 mile exclusion zone, around the hot spots to eliminate these infected badgers. 3. Last year, the FDA reduced the maximum dose of paracetamol (called acetaminophen in the US) in tablets or capsules to 325mg to reduce the risk of accidental overdoses. For the first four years, the effort to remove badgers off the ground was farcical, due to the restrictions placed on us. Making it easy to keep an eye on the UKs parliaments. A questionnaire to assess motives for choosing paracetamol as a suicidal agent was completed by 107 patients admitted after an overdose of the drug. organism is identified, In its final recommendation last year, Nice performed a U-turn, reinstating its previous backing of paracetamol, pending the outcome of a broad review of over-the-counter painkillers by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, the results of which are due later this year. from the environment have the same Those, who will make the decision to cull or not to cull, have to have sufficient robust evidence to withstand the inevitable legal challenges Judicial Review - that will result from what ever their decision. Using paracetamol to kill rats Supplies needed. Luckily badgers have relatively poor eyesight. Vets may wish to encourage urgent But should we think harder before we pop another pill? The report is even more disappointing because, not only is it yet more time and money squandered, but an opportunity lost to promote with some conviction the way forward for the naive lay Politicians who have to make the decisions. tests will be provided to the veterinary It also highlighted evidence that those taking it regularly were almost four times more likely to have abnormal liver function test results. All the previous culls, which unlike the Krebs trial were all efficient, could not be technically classified as scientific trials, because they had no comparative controls. Around 200m packets of it are sold annually, accounting for two-thirds of the UK market for over-the-counter painkillers. Theres a worrying trend emerging on TikTok which is causing a spike in crimes against badgers and other animals, according to charities. Cattle, now have to be pre movement tested, within 60 days of arrival on the farm. The use of more than two dogs would be illegal under the Hunting Act. Preferring the protection of darkness, badgers feed at night. Conrad shooting him is about as quick as it gets bud. The expensive research into badger and cattle vaccines should be immediately curtailed. The Killings at Badger's Drift Episode aired Jul 5, 1998 TV-14 2 h IMDb RATING 8.1 /10 2K YOUR RATING Rate Crime Drama Mystery An elderly woman is found dead in her own cottage and DCI Tom Barnaby is convinced the death is not a simple accident. The problem with badgers is that, being such a powerful beast they don't go short of food, so bait won't work. It is inevitable that these badgers, if not already infected will become infected with TB, putting at risk pets and humans alike. described by Dr Colin Fink of However a badger (or any animal) is culled its welfare will be compromised. Peer review is the critical scrutiny by Independent Anonymous Specialists. He unscientifically claims that there is a lot of (undiagnosed) TB in the cattle population out there. Its a bit like when they say that if you swear at your wife or your husband, you feel better. Priorities!? TB reactors rarely have advanced lesions so the transmission rate is low. Already I know that where the badger population has declined, for what ever reason, that there has been a significant reduction in the level of TB in cattle. I heard the comment once that most badgers seen on roads are ones that have been shot illegally, or poisoned with Paracetamol, 1 tablet will kill a badger so I'm told. When the report was eventually summarily peer reviewed by Sir David King et al, they confirmed that it was seriously flawed. Sometimes, no culling took place at all. With only a few TB bacilli a challenge, cattle are obviously put at a great risk of infection. Achieving healthy badgers and The EU has, in any case, for sound scientific reasons, instructed the 42 day testing regime to be extended to a 60 day one. This certainly applies to the pseudo-science in the ISGs final report. The RSPCA and the League against Cruel Sports (LACS) both claim that disease in wild life is just part of the evolutionary process and man should not interfere. I have an out apiary in an ecogarden at work. Even at low doses NSAIDs can cause side effects, such as: headaches. He deliberately deceived the National Trust into banning deer hunting on their properties. Not forgetting the welfare cost to the badger suffering with TB slowly dying from starvation. e-mail: easiest to solve. A practical, cheap, sustainable, That old shoulder injury is playing up again. Disturbingly there is an uncanny similarity between his science and behaviour and those involved with the badgers! These will be a potential source of infection to the cattle. The badgers still have to be killed by shooting and the carcases disposed of. Having allowed the Badger Groups to have a significant influence over both the design and execution of the trial, Bourne has been far too familiar with them. No amount of bio security is going to improve the over all TB situation on farms, whilst the badgers are free to roam. They (Government) dont want us is a frequent quote from my clients. available. They are in sheltered accommodation. for Mycobacteria infectivity. Support. Safe Dosage for Adults with Pain Infected setts should be identified using PCRs. Photograph: Joe Giddens/PA. They spent most of their time playing with their (computer) models. The long awaited publication of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committees (EFRAC) report on Badgers and cattle TB is nothing short of an anti-climax. area in one day during the winter is the If PCR cannot be Because of sabotage by the badger groups they were then placed on the badger runs. pathogen and what is simply there as Disruption of badger communities Breakdowns virtually always coincide with badger activity. 3. for PCR single round These debilitated badgers having been expelled from their setts, take up residence in and around farm buildings, where food and shelter is more readily available. killing badgers with paracetamol. Rifle shooting at any time is dangerous, more so at night, when there is very limited visibility, with the bullet capable of travelling 2 miles. This method would however, successfully decommission the setts. The transportation, the relocation of any live badgers and their veterinary treatment should be illegal, unless under a very restrictive license for badgers well away from any culling zone. Poisoning with paracetamol. effective way of culling the badgers is Consequently few were trapped. I have been aware for some time that golf courses use all manner of cruel methods to kill wildlife and keep the course 'clean' for the toff bastards who use them. Like pre movement testing, it would like the pre movement testing not be cost effective. Implementation of all the other ISG recommendations, in return for a cull - a quid pro quo- would not only be the final straw that will break the camels back and unnecessary, but obscene. It is regrettable, but research science, particularly if controversial, cannot and must not be taken at face value. Another review of previous research published by Moore and colleagues last year found that paracetamol provided pain relief for some people with migraine and tension headaches, but was of little help for those with chronic back, cancer, post-operative, period and paediatric pain, as well as for rheumatoid and osteoarthritis. Blood levels of paracetamol were 0.12-8.3 gm/L at 72-2 hours which did not correlate significantly with oral doses. not necessarily in traditional setts. interesting data. WebParacetamol is the most common medicine taken in overdose. reality. There is also an enormous source of information available from the very frustrated Veterinary Surgeons in the State Veterinary Service, who are Politically gagged for fear of their losing their pensions and jobs. Within a few years, the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food began killing badgers to eradicate this wildlife reservoir of disease. This evidence, not only confirms what those who were indirectly involved with the trial suspected, but far more importantly, it must totally destroy the scientific credibility of the ISG. Liver failure can be fatal. has recently trumpeted The Minister is probably now aware 6. Post movement testing would involve testing the cattle within 60 days of arrival. Many of these sows would have had TB. 4. Due to the latest TB scare I expect this will be happening a lot. If you look at asthma or diabetes, these are really well self-managed conditions because people are empowered, but were not used to the concept of self-management of pain. Even Prof. Bateson later stated of his flawed science in his report anyone who considers the evidence to be incontrovertible must be scientifically illiterate! stomach pains, sickness, diarrhoea, and indigestion. in badgers using the polymerase chain Prof. Batesons science was so basic and superficial that it was negligent. Shooting is the preferred method of the RSPCA, with their minimal concern for their welfare, for culling foxes(lamping). Once gassed the setts must be decommissioned to prevent re occupation. When the reservoir has been removed there will be no necessity to use it. Release Calendar Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. Security | The maximum 24-hour dose of paracetamol is 4g, but as little as 5g can cause liver complications, and it can be easy to overdose accidentally by taking more than one product containing it at the same time. Farmers suffering TB incidents, are frustrated and in a state of despair, in their present state, they are very vulnerable. Drug class: Miscellaneous analgesics. Its not going to be easy because its a cultural problem, but my view is that within five years we will no longer be prescribing paracetamol for chronic pain relief., Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning, Paracetamol - should you keep taking the tablets? targeted method is gas, used in a way Anyway, there is also already shortage of Veterinary man power to carry out such testing. brought back in-house by DEFRA this The relevant correct fig. Defra having disbanded their wildlife dept. The prevalence of infection on initial culls was higher in the inner regions of proactive treatment areas (2km or more inside the boundary) than in the outer areas, which is not surprising as trial areas were centred on areas of high bTB risk. Home | | World, unessecery badger killing at erewash golfcourse WebAlthough the potentially fatal consequences of taking a paracetamol overdose are well known, the widespread belief has been that the drug is mild and relatively safe if taken at the recommended dose. the badger population only applies if There was a moribund dead badger with typical TB lesions found in their school playing area, which were not cultured on political instructions! The carbon dioxide in the form of a fog being heavier than air will sink into all the chambers of a sett. An open invitation which was accepted. Movies. I heard the comment once that most badgers seen on roads are ones that have been shot illegally, or poisoned with Paracetamol, 1 tablet will kill a badger so I'm told. There must be an extensive public propaganda campaign to inform and educate them of the true scenario, countering the pseudo propaganda of the badger groups THE KREBS TRIAL has failed because far too few badgers were culled over a far too long a period. Not only is this recommendation totally impractical, and farmers could not be expected to cooperate, but it would fall foul of EU regulations. Bourne has cleverly manipulated the goal posts to hoodwink the nave, the gullible, the impressionable, at all levels of society - Politicians and the public. Basically, it takes another 60+/- days before lesions develop. By Further 2023 - Improve International, Alexandra House, Whittingham Drive, Wroughton, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0QJ, England. I had a problem at one my out apiaries with badgers pushing over hives. If the disease reduction programme both politically and to reduce the burden When I challenged him that as the Chairman of the ISG he should be impartial and not have preconceived ideas as to the conclusions of the trial, I must have touched his very sensitive raw nerve as he, typically acted as a prima donna and stalked off muttering! No cattle must be tested within 60 days of a previous test. Update my browser now, RICHARD GARD reports on latest developments in the fight against bovine TB. What was surprising was that so, too, had the same proportion of patients who were taking paracetamol. An electrical 220/240 volt generator is required. Badgers must have a source of water. Two men with their equipment, quad bikes, their knap sacks and with a supply of dry ice, in each region would suffice. Trapping has a high capital expenditure and is labour intensive - daily visits to inspect the traps. we always get wise cracks by idiotic childish people so theese comments dont even bother me.there are more good replies .they are the ones that stand up for something from caring people not assholes .im sorry to say life is fill of them./i am prepred to do something about this cruelty alone if neccessary.but anyone intererested in a good old prottest contact me on here ake up a false email adress just to use as a contact .maybe there is a way through this site .thanks, Week of Action Against the North Wales Prison & the Prison Industrial Complex, Wythnos o Weithredu yn Erbyn Carchar Gogledd Cymru, Demo/vigil at NSA/NRO Menwith Hill US Spy Base, Vigil for Julian Assange outside Ecuadorian Embassy. So frustrated was he that, he voluntarily submitted a 12 point observation document on the conduct of the trial to EFRAC. Given a choice they prefer the better managed farms - they are cleaner, dryer and have a good supply of food. Install fencing around the perimeter of your yard, or around the problem area. WebResearchers at UCLA followed 42 participants over a three-week period, who took either a placebo, no treatment or paracetamol twice a day and answered a questionnaire about their feelings. Krebs was ridiculously expensive for what it delivered. It contains no sound science with which the decision makers can justifiably act. with no remorse. Webbadgers are being given paracetamol tabs in apples so the wealthy can play golf /erewas golf course in sandiacre derby .have badgers coming on the golfcourse .so local landscape gardner .well known told me he has been drilling holes in apples rolling them down the sets .the badgers eat them .and die in pain over a period of time./all this Farmers and their families, are not only suffering financial hardship, but emotional stress, which cannot be quantified. be alleviated. or already evicted from the badger disease surveillance and compensation. However I do consider that to have some herds on a 4 year testing regime is far too long. the third obstacle and fortunately the The decision must be an incisive clinical one, not one of consensus. goes on in addition to the role with environmental noise may be overcome. carbon monoxide gassing of badgers is EFFRAC before publishing their report, should have debriefed these Veterinary Surgeons who actually have had decades of practical experience and have no vested interests - the likes of John Gallagher, John Daykin and retired DVOs/DVMs, who have been critical of the ISGs pseudo-science in the past. Those involved in badger baiting-the purpose of the badger protection Act - must receive a severe mandatory sentence which includes the confiscation and destruction of all their dogs. routinely visited but in many counties WebAs much as we try to cater for everyone it is up to the individual to know of any allergies or sensitivities they may have to certain products and we cannot be held responsible for any allergic reactions. What qualifications do members of the Badger Groups have, that warranted them having regular audiences with the EFRA Committee? It was money and time squandered. 2. been a quantum leap in sequencing WebWith all methods of culling badgers under the Badger Protection Act, and some illegal under EU regulations, prior to any cull either the Badger Act must be amended to allow the culling of badgers in regions where TB is endemic in the cattle population or a general licence to cull given. 7. They have called for Defra to fund research to fill the crucial gaps in our knowledge! Please Email kingkeith567@hotmail.co.uk for more details, Tartan Giant At around 2p per 500mg tablet, it certainly is cheap. from 14th to 16th October will provide It is a sad reflection on the integrity of those involved. Nearly all of my cattle clients are either under restriction or have been during the past 3 years. Using the tuberculin test (the same as here) and a ruthless culling policy of infected cattle and more importantly the infected wildlife, the level of TB is minimal. The regional press This has been my observation since. WebLet him suffer and turn. then you shoot the badgers. years significant financial gains can be Take an old donkey jacket and put a pork pie in each pocket; now take a slash in the pockets. To appease the Badger Groups there was even a closed season Jan to May to allow the badgers to breed, and rear their young, there by increasing the population. badgers, and applied in an effective way Needless to say this open invitation to sabotage the trial was taken. All those with decades of practical experience who have had the audacity to criticise him, have been subjected to the same treatment. M.R.C.V.S. on cattle farmers. As an animal behaviourist and not an exercise physiologist, he did not or did not want to, comprehend even elementary principles. that matches the realities of badger tractor, in a controlled, effective way to It has only further muddied the waters already contaminated by the Independent Scientific Groups (ISG) report. unessecery badger killing at erewash golfcourse | Since only a few individual badgers were culled from each sett/ social group, in many cases the social structure would basically remain intact. Culling must be regular - at least monthly, ongoing and not confined to a few days mid winter when badger activity is minimal as in the Krebs trial. (PQ 18 Oct 2007: column 1190 W).

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